More Metal Found at the Famed Roswell Debris Site, as Recent as June 3rd, 2023!
If you think the Roswell crash debris site still doesn’t hold evidence that something crashed there in 1947, well you’re mistaken!
In 2002 my sister Debbie and I found a piece of metal at the debris site during a sanctioned archeology dig for the SyFy Channel.
On Friday Sept. 20th, 2002, my sister Debbie Ziegelmeyer and I were asked to participate in an archeology dig at the famed Mac Brazel debris site. The Syfy Channel crew was also there to document the dig for their 2 hour special, “The Roswell Crash: Startling New Evidence”.
In 105 degree heat, we dug, scooped, scrapped, and sifted dirt looking for anything unusual which would resemble what Mac Brazel saw back in 1947.
After the film crew had finished filming their project, the University of New Mexico’s archeologist Dr. Bill Doleman, agreed to let me and Debbie come back to the site the following day so we could run our own specialized dig. I knew the chances of finding anything where we were digging for the TV show was very low, because due to the years of erosion, debris could have moved to other locations. So, the following day I set up a different dig in an area where Dr. Doleman said water would settle due to erosion after all these years.
The site Dr. Bill chose for us to dig was in an area where years of rainfall settled in the soil. My “strip dig” site was 1 meter by about 20 meters long. I wanted to dig a shallow trench 10-centimeters deep where debris could more likely be found from 1947. I also wanted to cover as much area as I could in the amount of time we had. Only 1 day.
As luck would have it, we found a piece of metal in our dig!
The debris piece was silver and slightly metallic in color. It was about the size of a fingernail, very thin and light weight. It appeared to be a thin metal or Mylar type material. It was so light weight, that Debbie had to hold on to it tight, so it wouldn’t blow away
I later had the piece of metal analyzed using an electron scanning microscope and learned it was an aluminum/silicon alloy.
1 micron equals 1 millionth of a meter, so these pictures show you a very detailed image at a very high magnification. In the graph, you can see spikes of Aluminum and Silicon. The other two spikes are carbon and oxygen which is air and humans that held the debris like me and my sister. Noticed the extremely small damage shown at high magnification.
Jump to June 3rd, 2023.
On June 3rd, 2023, I took my good friend Frank Kimbler and a couple of other individuals out to the debris site. The last time I was at the debris site was before COVID hit, so I wanted to go back, take a look around, and shoot some pics and drone shots for my upcoming Roswell lecture in July.
The day before on June 2nd, I was visiting Roswell’s International UFO Museum to meet with Frank, told him I was headed out to the debris site and was happy to learn he wanted to go too! It had been a while since I’ve seen Frank, so there was much catching up to do on the way out there.
A little bit about Frank.
He is an associate Professor of Earth Science at the New Mexico Military Institute. Worked as a professional geologist for more than 40 years and as an Earth Science professor for almost 20 years. He also worked as an oceanographer for NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and as a mining engineer for the State of Arizona.
I had met Frank a few years back when I was helping him identify the debris he found at this site. He located the site after our initial 2002 dig and was very interested in the piece of metal we found. When I learned he could come with us, I told him I would be doing some quick metal detecting and he said he would bring his detector too! I was so happy to have someone with Frank’s scientific background with me.
While at the debris site shooting pics for my upcoming lecture, I decided to try my luck at metal detecting.
Ok, here’s something very interesting.
We were in a specific area of the debris site and my camera was having battery issues. Frank asked to use my EMF (electro-magnetic frequency) meter in the location I had battery drain. The meter showed waves of EMF spiking as he walked. Was this due to recent rains or was something else going on?
Frank then returned to my truck to retrieve his metal detector to check the area out while I assembled my DJI Phantom 4 drone for some arial shots. While Frank was metal detecting, I tried to launch my drone but immediately got battery errors. After multiple resets the drone wouldn’t launch. I then thought to myself, “oh shit” this is the area with the EMF spikes. I then moved some distance from that area and the drone’s battery error went away.
Meanwhile Frank was sweeping the area with his metal detector.
In the same area where he had found some debris years before, he got a hit!
He found this!
This little piece of metal appears to have seen a lot of trauma by the way it’s twisted and folded. Really unusual for a piece of metal which was found under 7 to 8 inches of dirt in the middle of the New Mexico desert.
Frank looked at me and said, “I’m keeping this one for analysis, but if I find another, it’s yours!”
Well as luck would have it, while I was metal detecting in another location, Frank got a second hit in the same area.
He found this! And now it’s mine! 🙂
This little piece of debris also looks like it’s seen tough times. Folded, curved and bent, there was a tremendous amount of force that caused this.
Can’t wait to see this little guy under an electron-scanning microscope.
Ok, since June 3rd, I scrapped my metal detector and purchased a Fisher Gold Bug Pro. Very similar to Frank’s detector, these metal detectors were designed to find gold nuggets and as luck would have it, Roswell Debris Too!
One of the attributes of being an experienced UFO investigator is being able to know your own limitations and work with people who specialize in areas you don’t. I was so happy to have Frank with me that day, believe it or not, I actually daydreamed this would happen. Knowing Franks expertise and metal detecting ability, really paid off.
Thank you Frank.
So now both Frank and I are in the process of getting our metals analyzed but there is a protocol we investigators must follow.
1st. Have an accredited lab run the initial analysis.
2nd. Hand deliver the debris to the lab and monitor the analysis in person.
Now the second one is tough; all opportunities must be exhausted before I let this debris piece out of my site. Frank feels the same way.
As soon as my debris piece or Frank’s debris piece get’s tested, we’ll release our findings on this website. So far, we’re both running into some hurdles with some labs closed due to COVID and others having a back-log.
But that won’t stop us, more on debris analysis later.
UFOnut.com: Roswell Debris Site Archeology Dig, 2002.
https://www.ufonut.com/roswell-ufo-archeology-dig-2002/
UFOnut.com: Roswell 2002 Debris analysis.
https://www.ufonut.com/2002-roswell-dig-artifact-analysis-latest-update/
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